Rinner, Julianna/Juliana/Julia

Birth Name Rinner, Julianna/Juliana/Julia
Nick Name Jule
Gender female

Narrative

According to the notes of Johannah Maria Obermayer:

The mother of Julia, who is unknown, committed suicide in a nearby lake (probably Neusiedler lake, as Mathias worked as a shoemaker in Neusiedl am See). She was only 17 years old, and could not handle the shame of being an unmarried mother. In her suicide note, she said Mathias was the father of Julia.

Mathias always denied him being the father, but accepted the child as his and gave her the name Obermayer, to prevent shame on his family. It was never discovered whether he was actually the father, but according to Johannah Maria, she looked very much like the other Obermayer's, so she could very well be of Mathias or is brother (Jozef).

If this story is true, the Maria is not the real mother of Julia, this is also why I marked Maria as the stepmom of Julia.

 

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After finding the birth date of Julianna, this story does not appear to be true. The birth record does only mention the mother, so they were probably indeed not married. But, she was 23 at the time. She did die in the same year, but 7 months after the birth. The death record mentions she died of tuberculosis, Matthias Obermayer reported the death and they lived at the same address, so they were probably living together.

Events

Event Date Place Description Sources
Birth 3/2/1898 Neusiedl am See, Burgenland, Austria    
Event Note

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9THH-TGN?i=137&cc=1452460&cat=85681

Parents

Relation to main person Name Birth date Death date Relation within this family (if not by birth)
Father Obermayer, Mathias/Matthias/Mátyás/Matthäus14/2/187419/9/1922
Mother Rimmer/Riener, Julianna7/3/18758/9/1898
         Rinner, Julianna/Juliana/Julia 3/2/1898
 
Father Obermayer, Mathias/Matthias/Mátyás/Matthäus14/2/187419/9/1922
Stepmother Giebisch, Katharina13/9/188713/4/1971
    Half-sister     Obermayer, Elizabeth 1919
    Half-sister     Obermayer, Maria 1920
 
Father Obermayer, Mathias/Matthias/Mátyás/Matthäus14/2/187419/9/1922
Stepmother Schindelasch/Schindelar, Mariá/Maria6/8/187719/12/1918
         Rinner, Julianna/Juliana/Julia 3/2/1898 (Birth, Stepchild)
    Stepsister     Schindelasch/Schindelar, Antonia 18/4/1900 1980 (Stepchild, Birth)
    Half-brother     Obermayer, Mathias 7/6/1902 5/11/1933
    Half-brother     Obermayer, Johann 13/3/1904 4/1/1916
    Half-sister     Obermayer, Magdelena/Helena/Lene 13/1/1906 8/3/1936
    Half-sister     Obermayer, Johanna 17/10/1908 19/2/1909
    Half-sister     Obermayer, Johanna Maria 6/3/1910 16/12/1995
    Half-brother     Obermayer, Franz Joseph 10/7/1912 16/12/1930

Families

Family of Seebach, Friedrich and Rinner, Julianna/Juliana/Julia

Married Husband Seebach, Friedrich ( * 5/7/1895 + 8/1/1971 )
   
Event Date Place Description Sources
Marriage 4/6/1925      
  Children
Name Birth Date Death Date
Seebach, Else Viktoria22/4/192213/1/2003
Seebach, Margareta Johanna22/10/1923

Family of Szóstak, Anton and Rinner, Julianna/Juliana/Julia

Unknown Partner Szóstak, Anton ( * 1890 + ... )

Addresses

Date Street Locality City State/ Province County Postal Code Country Phone Sources
8/9/1898 158   Neusiedl am See Burgenland     Austria    

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