Rinner, Julianna/Juliana/Julia
Birth Name | Rinner, Julianna/Juliana/Julia |
Nick Name | Jule |
Gender | female |
Narrative
According to the notes of Johannah Maria Obermayer:
The mother of Julia, who is unknown, committed suicide in a nearby lake (probably Neusiedler lake, as Mathias worked as a shoemaker in Neusiedl am See). She was only 17 years old, and could not handle the shame of being an unmarried mother. In her suicide note, she said Mathias was the father of Julia.
Mathias always denied him being the father, but accepted the child as his and gave her the name Obermayer, to prevent shame on his family. It was never discovered whether he was actually the father, but according to Johannah Maria, she looked very much like the other Obermayer's, so she could very well be of Mathias or is brother (Jozef).
If this story is true, the Maria is not the real mother of Julia, this is also why I marked Maria as the stepmom of Julia.
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After finding the birth date of Julianna, this story does not appear to be true. The birth record does only mention the mother, so they were probably indeed not married. But, she was 23 at the time. She did die in the same year, but 7 months after the birth. The death record mentions she died of tuberculosis, Matthias Obermayer reported the death and they lived at the same address, so they were probably living together.
Events
Event | Date | Place | Description | Sources |
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Birth | 3/2/1898 | Neusiedl am See, Burgenland, Austria | ||
Event Note
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9THH-TGN?i=137&cc=1452460&cat=85681 |
Parents
Relation to main person | Name | Birth date | Death date | Relation within this family (if not by birth) |
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Father | Obermayer, Mathias/Matthias/Mátyás/Matthäus | 14/2/1874 | 19/9/1922 | |
Mother | Rimmer/Riener, Julianna | 7/3/1875 | 8/9/1898 | |
Rinner, Julianna/Juliana/Julia | 3/2/1898 | |||
Father | Obermayer, Mathias/Matthias/Mátyás/Matthäus | 14/2/1874 | 19/9/1922 | |
Stepmother | Giebisch, Katharina | 13/9/1887 | 13/4/1971 | |
Half-sister | Obermayer, Elizabeth | 1919 | ||
Half-sister | Obermayer, Maria | 1920 | ||
Father | Obermayer, Mathias/Matthias/Mátyás/Matthäus | 14/2/1874 | 19/9/1922 | |
Stepmother | Schindelasch/Schindelar, Mariá/Maria | 6/8/1877 | 19/12/1918 | |
Rinner, Julianna/Juliana/Julia | 3/2/1898 | (Birth, Stepchild) | ||
Stepsister | Schindelasch/Schindelar, Antonia | 18/4/1900 | 1980 | (Stepchild, Birth) |
Half-brother | Obermayer, Mathias | 7/6/1902 | 5/11/1933 | |
Half-brother | Obermayer, Johann | 13/3/1904 | 4/1/1916 | |
Half-sister | Obermayer, Magdelena/Helena/Lene | 13/1/1906 | 8/3/1936 | |
Half-sister | Obermayer, Johanna | 17/10/1908 | 19/2/1909 | |
Half-sister | Obermayer, Johanna Maria | 6/3/1910 | 16/12/1995 | |
Half-brother | Obermayer, Franz Joseph | 10/7/1912 | 16/12/1930 |
Families
Family of Seebach, Friedrich and Rinner, Julianna/Juliana/Julia |
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Married | Husband | Seebach, Friedrich ( * 5/7/1895 + 8/1/1971 ) | ||||||||||||||
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Children |
Name | Birth Date | Death Date |
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Seebach, Else Viktoria | 22/4/1922 | 13/1/2003 |
Seebach, Margareta Johanna | 22/10/1923 |
Family of Szóstak, Anton and Rinner, Julianna/Juliana/Julia
Addresses
Date | Street | Locality | City | State/ Province | County | Postal Code | Country | Phone | Sources |
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8/9/1898 | 158 | Neusiedl am See | Burgenland | Austria |